tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068105406305319114.post6719456600723398461..comments2024-01-11T17:17:37.361+00:00Comments on The Raft Journal: Marriage a la mode - all the fun of the lawWoman on a Rafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08897415591130901416noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068105406305319114.post-3636039816509001192012-04-28T14:22:20.975+01:002012-04-28T14:22:20.975+01:00Good bye, considerate alternative other :)Good bye, considerate alternative other :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068105406305319114.post-74565235076486333692011-02-03T13:18:50.269+00:002011-02-03T13:18:50.269+00:00I'm afraid, Subrosa, that the Bulls don't ...I'm afraid, Subrosa, that the Bulls don't really want legal advice. They want a martyrdom. They are very likely to get their wish. <br /><br />James Dingemans QC, representing the Bulls, has played his hand as well as possible. I doubt he expected to win this round; the regulation was formulated for exactly this situation so the ruling at county court level was a foregone conclusion. <br /><br />Civil partnership is marriage for this purpose, so Hall and Preddy could not be treated less favourably than any married couple who had booked the room. <br /><br />It's by no means clear that the Bulls were able to lawfully discriminate against single people in defiance of existing discrimination law; it's just that nobody had ever called them out on it. <br /><br />Dingemans gave a legal opinion to the Christian Institute before the regulation was implemented that it set the issue of religious freedom against other rights. He guessed the challenge might come to a Christian care home refusing a double room to a same-sex couple, so he had been expecting this test case to come along for several years. <br /><br />He has technically won this round (although the client has lost) because it has gone straight to leave to appeal, meaning he has won the argument that there is a real clash of HR principles. <br /><br />Only lawyers win in the long-run. <br /><br />If, like ASE and I, you see this as an economic matter and don't necessarily think that human rights were ever meant to be trivialized by petty squabbles over hotel rooms instead of important matters like whether the state can lock you up or take away your children in secret, then you will be content with a segmented market and let the customers decide whether a hotel will go out of business or not. <br /><br />Hall and Preddy were always entitled to win this one on a consumer basis; they insist they booked in good faith and then the landlord refused to honour that, making no effort to overcome the trouble they had been put to. <br /><br />If you are a secularist you will see this as a straightforward clash of HR principles.<br /><br />If you are Cranmer you will see this as evidence of militant secularism and an anti-Christian bias. I no longer dismiss that view, although he sometimes lays it on a bit thick.Woman on a Rafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897415591130901416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068105406305319114.post-77301833479328613792011-02-03T05:39:43.165+00:002011-02-03T05:39:43.165+00:00Very sensible argument and well set out. I would ...Very sensible argument and well set out. I would agree with you entirely and I just hope someone emails a copy of this to the Bulls. It may save them money on legal fees.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068105406305319114.post-63372198209696243662011-02-02T19:39:31.969+00:002011-02-02T19:39:31.969+00:00It's somewhere to camp out, I suppose.It's somewhere to camp out, I suppose.Submarinernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6068105406305319114.post-5144103635913528052011-02-02T18:27:05.358+00:002011-02-02T18:27:05.358+00:00A gay hotel ?
I often wondered what they meant by...A gay hotel ?<br /><br />I often wondered what they meant by the 'gay lobby'.Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.com